old family red nose

any one have good old family red nose dogs that are breed in ireland

Are you looking for them or do you have them?

Harry wrote:Are you looking for them or do you have them?

i have some OFRN APBT Hemphill bloodline i just wanted to compare the us OFRN dogs to the ones from Irelands dog that is were my dogs ancestors come from

Oh I thought you were in Ireland, my bad

I'm fairly sure there's some stuff still here, but not half as good as the US stuff.

Could you post a pic or two? Please

very rare really the old family red nose has being bred to to many different lines, and said to be extinct at this stage, people often think that just because their dog has a red nose then its from the old family strain but its not the case, as far as i know the lines its-self originated from Ireland by a guy named William J. Lightner, im 99% sure its not pure here today, Ricky B would be the 1 that would give you the best answer on that.

In America it's one of the tightest bred lines ever, some of it is crazy lol...

celticpitbulls wrote:very rare really the old family red nose has being bred to to many different lines, and said to be extinct at this stage, people often think that just because their dog has a red nose then its from the old family strain but its not the case, as far as i know the lines its-self originated from Ireland by a guy named William J. Lightner, im 99% sure its not pure here today, Ricky B would be the 1 that would give you the best answer on that.

my dogs are hemphill wallace.Sarona i even traced some of my dogs to the fleeley stain the OFRN dogs are not extinct their are but a few kennels still have pure OFRN dogs.i just wanted to compare the dogs from ireland and thouse os the USA

i will post pics as soon as i get familiar with the site
i make custom weight pull harnesses here in the us do you guys like to pull how big is weight pulling in Ireland i find it sad to hear no one has preserved the OFRN dogs in your par of the world

Ireland is very far behind when it comes to sports etc but we are on the case at the moment, also as you know the breed has being bred by some individuals that only care about making a quick book and this i find has being its downfall, however i do believe there are some people (minority) that keep pedigrees of various lines going.

celticpitbulls wrote:very rare really the old family red nose has being bred to to many different lines, and said to be extinct at this stage, people often think that just because their dog has a red nose then its from the old family strain but its not the case, as far as i know the lines its-self originated from Ireland by a guy named William J. Lightner, im 99% sure its not pure here today, Ricky B would be the 1 that would give you the best answer on that.

William J. Lightner was one of the greates breeder and preserver but no he did not make the line alot of breeders wer inporting dogs of the old family lightner was the one that had the bigest splash but their is jim corcoran that was inporting OFRN dogs he him self was from irland and ended up staying in the us he then sent for his dogs .William J. Lightner did not really like the OFRN look he just put up with it because of the qualaty of game that the dogs were puting out afther a few years William J. Lightner gave up the OfRN dog and started a diferent strain of drark color dogs .the great pit man dan mccoy and bob himphill saved what was last of the William J. Lightner dogs it was then bob walles and bob hemhill saved the OFRN dogs that were left from William J. Lightner and still to this day their is a few kennels that still preserve the line

good post as they say you learn something new every day,
as i was saying im 99% sure this line has not being preserved in Ireland.

celticpitbulls wrote:good post as they say you learn something new every day,
as i was saying im 99% sure this line has not being preserved in Ireland.

that is sad to my ears i would of love to see some dogs that were breed true to the OFRN strain if you guys need help with weight pulling let me know i will be more then happy to help also i am working on a weight pulling DVD

yeah i can see how sad this must make you feel when you come back to a country of origin and find maybe the roots have being lost, as i said Ricky B will be the 1 that could give you accurate information about this.

thanks for the offer in helping us in relation to the weight pull your very kind, We are in the process of introducing various activity's with the help of the ACES association in the UK.

Hello OFRNpits you are very welcome to the forum. I have just enjoyed reading the history of the Old Family Red Nose written by Richard Stratton. it looks like you have an interest in weight pulling. do you make the harness yourself?

We would gladly except any donations of weight pull harnesses as we are a non profit organization but im sure we could afford the postage

YENALED1 wrote:Hello OFRNpits you are very welcome to the forum. I have just enjoyed reading the history of the Old Family Red Nose written by Richard Stratton. it looks like you have an interest in weight pulling. do you make the harness yourself?

We would gladly except any donations of weight pull harnesses as we are a non profit organization but im sure we could afford the postage

i do make them my self i did all the harnesses for AKC world Series of dog shows second weight pull at reliant center in Houston tx unfortunately I will not be able to donate times are ruff material coast is up. I could how ever give you a discount as a group

celticpitbulls wrote:yeah i can see how sad this must make you feel when you come back to a country of origin and find maybe the roots have being lost, as i said Ricky B will be the 1 that could give you accurate information about this.

thanks for the offer in helping us in relation to the weight pull your very kind, We are in the process of introducing various activity's with the help of the ACES association in the UK.

i tried searching in the member fro Ricky B i could fine no one i would love to have a chat with him dose he have any OFRN dogs

if you look at the end of the forum where the stats are you will see his name, if you click on his name you can then send a PM or Email.

OFRNpits I was just having the craic as we say here in Ireland, but that is a very generous offer and we might just take you up on it. It is possible a few of us might want to order Harnesses, what price would you do 10 for including postage?

YENALED1 wrote:OFRNpits I was just having the craic as we say here in Ireland, but that is a very generous offer and we might just take you up on it. It is possible a few of us might want to order Harnesses, what price would you do 10 for including postage?

give me a address and i will figure out the postage
you can veiw mt site http://www.citylinekennels.com/id5.html

Galway Ireland. I have been on your website enjoyed having a look round.

OFRNpits you are welcome to put up your website on out merchandise thread.

YENALED1 wrote:Galway Ireland. I have been on your website enjoyed having a look round.

thank you i need a Physical address

YENALED1 wrote:OFRNpits you are welcome to put up your website on out merchandise thread.

thank you will do how dose $35 a harness sound

I will pm you